Apple’s OpenAI lawsuit is about who gets to define the post-smartphone era

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Today on Decoder, I’m talking with Hayden Field, The Verge’s senior AI reporter, about the major trade secrets lawsuit between Apple and OpenAI and what this tells us about OpenAI’s future. By now I’m sure most Decoder listeners are familiar with Apple’s allegations in this case. The company says a number of ex-Apple employees at OpenAI targeted Apple’s trade secrets in job interviews and even downloaded files from Apple’s servers related to hardware manufacturing.

Nauti's Take

For small teams, this is primarily a control and data-governance signal: anyone planning AI hardware or agent workflows should audit where internal files come from, who can access them, and how they are deleted. Apple’s allegations remain unproven, so the impact on OpenAI and Jony Ive’s hardware plans is still uncertain.

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